tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16158865.post2430724938489965808..comments2024-01-26T00:50:50.752-08:00Comments on Entangled Minds: For the oi vey filesDean Radinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16131263574182645280noreply@blogger.comBlogger74125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16158865.post-24633064705035692862011-05-20T17:13:14.067-07:002011-05-20T17:13:14.067-07:00People can perceive only things that are "wit...People can perceive only things that are "within range" of what their core beliefs will allow. Anything that goes too far outside those limits will be screened out, almost as a means of self-preservation for an ego structure that requires a predicable world (predictable in accordance with the "rules" they have learned and trust). So, you can present a person with direct evidence – incontrovertible proof – of a new idea, and they may not be able to assimilate it, regardless of their intelligence level. <br /><br />This principle applies even in cases where people are given a physical demonstration of something. If they cannot expand their world view to accommodate what they have witnessed, they won't process the sensory input (or will reconfigure it into a form that fits their beliefs). I've often seen people go to great lengths to reject or discount information that threatens their fundamental beliefs, and to dismiss unusual phenomena with "rational" explanations that defy logic. This is what happened in this case, apparently. To a more open-minded observer, it can be crazy-making!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16158865.post-63632381176820921192011-04-21T21:37:16.559-07:002011-04-21T21:37:16.559-07:00Of course they deny what they find incomprehensibl...Of course they deny what they find incomprehensible. It's just a shame that they taint their students' minds with this garbage. I hope to see the day when professors and families encourage young people to pay attention to their own intuitive and creative impulses. That is the path to human evolution; not indoctrination and degradation of those who dare to imagine.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16158865.post-51814508434827961852011-04-17T21:05:07.831-07:002011-04-17T21:05:07.831-07:00Using fraud to demonstrate that some people will p...Using fraud to demonstrate that some people will perpetrate fraud is a mixture of laughable, stupid, and reprehensible.Dean Radinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16131263574182645280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16158865.post-44026594991891753012011-04-16T16:56:53.963-07:002011-04-16T16:56:53.963-07:00You are right Dean, there is no time for the subje...You are right Dean, there is no time for the subjects to cheat unless they served for three sessions or more, but since most of the times is just one then it is not plausible. <br />Also, what do you think of the McDonnell laboratory ridicule by Randi with the Alpha Project?francisco.j.93https://www.blogger.com/profile/01168061911449913897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16158865.post-82506951419062156092011-04-16T13:01:53.642-07:002011-04-16T13:01:53.642-07:00Most psi researchers are well aware of the possibi...Most psi researchers are well aware of the possibility of fraud, and they do everything they can to prevent it. Someone who is obsessively determined to cheat can probably find a way to do so given enough time and effort, but is it plausible that this explains all experimental results? No. Most subjects in psi studies participate just once, and they are not identified, so they would not have much opportunity nor motivation to cheat.Dean Radinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16131263574182645280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16158865.post-45139081397641207182011-04-16T11:51:31.647-07:002011-04-16T11:51:31.647-07:00Hello Dean, I bought your book "Entangled Min...Hello Dean, I bought your book "Entangled Minds" and I am reading the section discussing the dream esp experiments. I have a question regarding the at home experiment. Do the experimenters prevented the use of nightly spies on the shielded computer? I mean a person sent by the participant at night to enter the room and tell him/her what the target is. Do you think it is even plausible?francisco.j.93https://www.blogger.com/profile/01168061911449913897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16158865.post-64714697852728815372011-04-13T03:44:26.383-07:002011-04-13T03:44:26.383-07:00You really do have to love the skeptics, don't...You really do have to love the skeptics, don't you? I believe that Keppler was criticized for introducing physics into his astronomy - either he or someone else. These people are just one big headache sometimes.Pikemann Urgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02587558012877707537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16158865.post-23735443781055310132011-04-12T14:10:12.324-07:002011-04-12T14:10:12.324-07:00"Yes, some of those comments are both sad and..."Yes, some of those comments are both sad and funny at the same time. One thing it makes crystal clear is that some folks who promote the wonders of hyper-rationality aren't so rational after all."<br /><br />one would think they'd be delighted that there is evidence of PSI, suggestive evidence of survival of conciousness, but seeing as the evidence threatens their narrow minded materialist attitude, but I guess it's like the church and Galileo when he demonstrated the earth wasn't the centre of the universeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16158865.post-22108796423147011792011-04-11T18:56:52.093-07:002011-04-11T18:56:52.093-07:00http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&...http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CC8QFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FJournal_of_Scientific_Exploration&ei=qrCjTbzcH4TUgQfZqoSdCg&usg=AFQjCNEMZSOVw65tND9GLLiU3gSz4nKMeg<br /><br />There is another ridiculous comment about SSE by some CSICOP guy. It shows me that anti-psi people want to imagine all serious investigators as if they had some agenda against rationality. I think those insults are a reflection of what CSICOP wants to do. In other words, CSICOP is the enemy of rationality.francisco.j.93https://www.blogger.com/profile/01168061911449913897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16158865.post-73754547894981990862011-04-11T12:57:13.251-07:002011-04-11T12:57:13.251-07:00Yes, some of those comments are both sad and funny...Yes, some of those comments are both sad and funny at the same time. One thing it makes crystal clear is that some folks who promote the wonders of hyper-rationality aren't so rational after all.Dean Radinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16131263574182645280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16158865.post-57634087873275308192011-04-11T00:54:44.865-07:002011-04-11T00:54:44.865-07:00Talking of Irony, I found this little piece on the...Talking of Irony, I found this little piece on the Richard Dawkins website, I have provided a link; it is about how Sam Harris is open to PSI phenomenon, it also mentions Ian Stevensons research. One person refers to him as "going senile". I thought the Richard Dawkins forum was supposed to be a clear thinking oasis and a place for rational discussion; I guess not. Anyway scroll down through this page for a laugh or two<br /><br />http://richarddawkins.net/articles/3315-does-religion-make-you-nice/comments?page=70Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16158865.post-89570250808266621742011-04-07T20:12:14.726-07:002011-04-07T20:12:14.726-07:00Thanks for answering that question Dean!, I wonder...Thanks for answering that question Dean!, I wondered if you had read on the Journal Of Scientific Exploration about Jacques Vallee's RV experiment. I think the methodology he used was very secure and the results were very accurate! What do you think of such experiment? If you have not read it you can go here: http://www.scientificexploration.org/journal/jse_02_1_vallee.pdffrancisco.j.93https://www.blogger.com/profile/01168061911449913897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16158865.post-66577580415452761052011-04-05T10:11:49.900-07:002011-04-05T10:11:49.900-07:00> I feel like a subtle bubble of something surr...> I feel like a subtle bubble of something surrounding the object. It feels stronger on my fingertips. Can it be the object's energy field? <br /><br />Sounds like static electricity.Dean Radinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16131263574182645280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16158865.post-9423948417034631002011-04-05T09:58:13.498-07:002011-04-05T09:58:13.498-07:00Dean, I have this weird experience in which when I...Dean, I have this weird experience in which when I relax a bit and put my hands at a distance of a stuffed animal I have, I feel like a subtle bubble of something surrounding the object. It feels stronger on my fingertips. Can it be the object's energy field? <br /><br />( I start feeling the "bubble's" surface a few inches away from the toy)francisco.j.93https://www.blogger.com/profile/01168061911449913897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16158865.post-54134819631793790442011-04-04T12:51:05.536-07:002011-04-04T12:51:05.536-07:00Thanks for an answering Dean. Really hope it gets ...Thanks for an answering Dean. Really hope it gets published in Science, as it could be a watershed moment (more even than Bem in JPSP). I was looking at the Tucson conference website, and there appears to be a lot more mainstream scientists doing psi related stuff (even if it's labeled differently!) Very encouraging. Jonathan Schooler is a good example of this.MickyDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05798927295708682347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16158865.post-53124935811445094912011-04-04T12:30:05.107-07:002011-04-04T12:30:05.107-07:00> You're not surely suggesting the US gover...> You're not surely suggesting the US government is not going after OBL for some covert reason? That sounds like conspiracy theory nonsense to me.<br /><br />History is replete with genuine conspiracies, so that is not out of the question. I'm just noting how odd it is that an enterprise with practically unlimited resources is unable to find one individual. This suggests that the pressure to find OBL may not as strong as we think it is, in which case there may be other reasons why it is useful politically and economically for some to keep "the enemy" out there. I hope this is not the case, but the more I read about the history of war, peace, and politics, the less I am inclined to believe "official government stories." That said, I am a rank amateur when it comes to such matters, so this is just my impression.<br /><br />> Also, (for the third time!) do you know if the presentiment MA has been accepted in Science?<br />Thanks again.<br /><br />I haven't heard.Dean Radinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16131263574182645280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16158865.post-78027742243657886882011-04-04T10:09:32.410-07:002011-04-04T10:09:32.410-07:00Dean, you're not surely suggesting the US gove...Dean, you're not surely suggesting the US government is not going after OBL for some covert reason? That sounds like conspiracy theory nonsense to me. <br />Also, (for the third time!) do you know if the presentiment MA has been accepted in Science? <br />Thanks again.MickyDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05798927295708682347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16158865.post-59977844332768702842011-04-04T09:54:30.745-07:002011-04-04T09:54:30.745-07:00Good point, David.Good point, David.Dean Radinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16131263574182645280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16158865.post-74706091341703401722011-04-04T09:14:37.227-07:002011-04-04T09:14:37.227-07:00Susan Blackmore's concept of the "curious...Susan Blackmore's concept of the "curious illusion of consciousness" seems curiously circular to me - because surely only a conscious entity can suffer an illusion! <br /><br />One might encounter statements like, "My computer is under the illusion that I've plugged in some speakers" (or whatever), but this is just a joke/metaphor.David Baileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06172248428321078417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16158865.post-16430654205258298952011-04-03T23:41:32.384-07:002011-04-03T23:41:32.384-07:00>> if remote viewing exists, why does the go...>> if remote viewing exists, why does the government has not found Osama Binladen? <<<br /><br /><br />Good question. Short answer: Don't know.<br /><br />But failure to find Bin Laden is nor evidence against remote viewing. I could ask a similar question: If conventional allopathic medicine works, then why haven't doctors found a cure for cancer or Alzheimer's?<br /><br />It may be that one person's psi effects can cancel out the other person's psi effects. If so, then one remote viewer may not be able to get through the blockade set up by thousands of terrorists and their supporters. Of course, that's just speculation and requires demonstrating that other (non-remote viewing) psi effects exist, although I think that psychical researchers (including Dean) have shown that they do exist. <br /><br /> >> I have tried to answer that question to myself and I cannot think of a good answer besides that he moves too much to be caught by a psychic. <<<br /><br />And that may be the case. Maybe he changes locations every week.Paprika https://www.blogger.com/profile/01650640416865438605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16158865.post-69781854665942097412011-04-03T20:31:21.545-07:002011-04-03T20:31:21.545-07:00Thanks for your answer Dean!, by now I have all th...Thanks for your answer Dean!, by now I have all the skeptical arguments answered including this one that gave me a headache for a while! So that is why RV has not helped find OBL... And yes, the US governemnt has so much people and experiments that I think are beyond what science knows today.francisco.j.93https://www.blogger.com/profile/01168061911449913897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16158865.post-878945630736917412011-04-03T17:46:40.193-07:002011-04-03T17:46:40.193-07:00> if remote viewing exists, why does the govern...> if remote viewing exists, why does the government has not found Osama Binladen? <br /><br />These are two different questions. First, RV isn't like a GPS tracking system. It works reasonably well for describing what a location looks like, but if OBL keeps moving from one cave or house to another, which is likely, then RV will just keep describing caves and houses. That is not useful for pinpointing a map location. In any case, the existence of RV is independent of whether it is reliably useful for practical applications.<br /><br />And even if RVers had viable information that might assist in finding OBL, I am not aware of any official route by which that information can be vetted in a timely manner. Sending information to your local police or FBI office will accomplish little because they don't know what to do with it, other than perhaps adding your name to the suspicious persons file.<br /><br />Second, as the years go by, I find it increasingly difficult to believe that the US government cannot locate one person. Then again, "the government" is a massive enterprise consisting of millions of people, and who knows what really goes on in such a huge organization.Dean Radinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16131263574182645280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16158865.post-13362889565577225392011-04-03T16:17:14.217-07:002011-04-03T16:17:14.217-07:00Dean, I have crossed with this debunking question ...Dean, I have crossed with this debunking question quiet often and they ask that if remote viewing exists, why does the government has not found Osama Binladen? (I do not know how to spell that guy's name)I have tried to answer that question to myself and I cannot think of a good answer besides that he moves too much to be caught by a psychic. What are your answers?francisco.j.93https://www.blogger.com/profile/01168061911449913897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16158865.post-54566061093669708752011-04-03T11:20:28.926-07:002011-04-03T11:20:28.926-07:00Dr Radin, in an earlier comment I mentioned Susan ...Dr Radin, in an earlier comment I mentioned Susan Blackmore-in upcoming teleseminar in which she features; the curious illusion of conciousness, it feels as if she, like other skeptics seem to be grasping at straws when it comes to conciousness. There is now a huge body of evidence that shows mind and brain are seperate and their best response is to call conciousness an illusionAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16158865.post-49673291455536178872011-03-30T21:06:38.091-07:002011-03-30T21:06:38.091-07:00>> How exactly do you know if what the recie...>> How exactly do you know if what the reciever's mind got is what the sender was sending? <<<br /><br />Because if they didn't receive the right thing, then they would be guessing - and guessing/chance alone would result in a hit rate of 25%. Yet, the overall success rate in dozens of studies is 32%.Paprika https://www.blogger.com/profile/01650640416865438605noreply@blogger.com